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Saturday, October 25th, 2008 at 11:21:05pm MDT 

  1. * Geti (~-@wpe-BE466EEE.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) has joined #metagame
  2. <Geti> hey orange
  3. <Orange> Hi.
  4. <Geti> like youre concept, its cool
  5. <Orange> Thanks.
  6. <Geti> i like the character's heads, i think the arms could work a little diferently but they have inspired me for
  7.   something.
  8. <Geti> i think if the jumper, instead of having the squares, had little bulbous lumps around the shoulders, that would be
  9.   cool, like just a lack of arms but a hint that something could be there. and if the runner had full length arms that
  10.   would be cool too.
  11. <Orange> Yeah, the bodies I didn't really know how to draw. That's for the artists to decide.
  12. <Orange> I like the heads though.
  13. <Geti> yeah, same, insect-y
  14. <Geti> are you coding or what? i didnt look you up.
  15. <Orange> Level Design.
  16. <Geti> ahkay. youd be good at that  :P
  17. <Geti> kk
  18. <Geti> wants me to log in..
  19. <Geti> ><
  20. <Animator> http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/cEiJykKO0r3zjsab7jnrAJ/IRC Done.
  21. <Animator> If you want to comment or anything, just go ahead.
  22. <Geti> kk
  23. <Animator> It's all there.
  24. <Geti> reading!
  25. <Geti> hehe i get flamed within 12 lines. :P
  26. <Animator> Never meant to be a flame.
  27. <Geti> heheh. well constructively annoyed at.
  28. <Geti> and yeah, there is quite a lack of connection between the forums and irc.
  29. <Geti> i didnt know this topic existed for a while./
  30. <Animator> It did.
  31. <Orange> topic?
  32. <Geti> *channel, so used to being on the forums.
  33. <Orange> Ah.
  34. <Orange> I didn't realise there was a topic, so used to being on the IRC.
  35. <Geti> Q was really empty. and the assembla chat fell apart.
  36. <Geti> heheh.
  37. <Animator> This is the last stand.
  38. <Orange> In a while, later today, I will draw an entire planet, and some of the stuff that may appear in a standard level.
  39. <Geti> mmhmm.. i think we need to get a semi-concrete plan of this. im just an artist with some experience coding with a
  40.   lot of ideas..
  41. <Animator> And we need everyone for it to be semi-concrete.
  42. <Orange> Alas, one of the difficulties involved in running a project with 30 people involved.
  43. <Geti> damn yes.
  44. <Orange> I'm thinking menus, like the universe menu shows 5-10 clickable galaxy icons.
  45. <Orange> It zooms in, and the star system spread apart.
  46. <Geti> it would be handy if everything was put in the topic, the channel was for discussion, the design document held
  47.   through, and yes.
  48. <Orange> systems*
  49. <Geti> and that would be cool..
  50. <Orange> Then you click a cluster, and all the planets in that cluster spread out
  51. <Orange> You click on one, and it zooms into game level.
  52. <Orange> However, this means there would need to be Spore-like transportation, rocketship or something.
  53. <Orange> So it may be good to start on one planet, and collect pieces for your ship, instead of flying straight away.
  54. <Orange> Of course, the land-bound stage wouldn't last very long.
  55. <Geti> maybe the galaxy is inside a hexagon (tesselation) or square with the number on it, and the outlines of the systems
  56.   inside it.
  57. * Zora_S_Kenneth (chatzilla@wpe-BEDEB187.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) has joined #metagame
  58. <Geti> hey zora.
  59. <Zora_S_Kenneth> Hello.
  60. <Animator> Hm.
  61. <Geti> hmn, maybe the first time you start the game you get a tutorial scene where you piece together your whatever
  62. <Animator> You're not in this project.
  63. <Orange> Geti: could work.
  64. <Orange> But we want a feeling of growth, instead of being able to go anywhere straight away.
  65. <Orange> The tutorial shows you the controls on a test planet, and there you get your ship.
  66. <Geti> mmhm.
  67. <Orange> But it can only manage interplanetary travel, and you have to upgrade it to go to other star systems.
  68. <Orange> When you save (save-anywhere preferred) the menu at startup is the zoom level you currently have unlocked.
  69. <Orange> For example, if you have the starter ship, you only see a planetoid cluster screen.
  70. <Geti> maybe.. i do kind of like the pick up and play of N though. like you open it., there is no "press a key" or crap
  71.   like that, its just the menu. you just play it. unpretentious, clean, i like it.
  72. <Orange> That's what this is like.
  73. <Orange> Menu, you click planet, you play.
  74. <Geti> ahahah at 2-53 (log section, line)
  75. <Zora_S_Kenneth> I agree. That's a good option.
  76. <Geti> #
  77. <Geti> <%Animator> I blame Geti for that.
  78. <Geti> #
  79. <Geti> <%Animator> I'm all for enthusiam, but he's pushing for things way to complicated without addressing the minor (yet
  80.   important) details.
  81. <Orange> Or something like the episodes menu, where the startup screen is a blank screen with stars slowly spiraling.
  82. <Orange> You click play, the menu you've unlocked comes up.
  83. <Animator> It's true.
  84. <Geti> as i said, im just an artist with ideas. good to get ideas written somewhere while to coders work on the underlying
  85.   everything.
  86. <Geti> i know.
  87. <Orange> Hovering over icons shows you what they are, eg galaxy 6-y-z
  88. <Orange> Then you click star system 6-3-z
  89. <Orange> You go to cluster 6-3-1
  90. <Orange> Then click Asteroid 6-3-1 Alpha, or something.
  91. <Zora_S_Kenneth> That almost sounds like it's taken from Spore. Maybe an asteroid belt would be more subtle?
  92. <Orange> Then you can play.
  93. <Geti> put that in the misc thing.
  94. <Orange> Yeah, that's all speculation right now.
  95. <Orange> I've never played Spore, so I can't be biased :D
  96. <Orange> The difference with N is that the levels rest on a deeper level than episodes.
  97. <Orange> The actual level order can be worked out later.
  98. <Orange> Do you guys agree with this structure?
  99. <Geti> yes, that sounds like an easy to work with menu.
  100. <Geti> animator, would you rather i toned down my ideas and kept with sketches?
  101. <Orange> Before we get the art down, it can be a simple tree-menu, with no graphics.
  102. <Orange> Just so we know how it works.
  103. <Zora_S_Kenneth> The menu difficulty: Easy. Sure. I still think that some people might think about Spore when they see
  104.   this. We don't want that.
  105. <Animator> No, no. Don't tone them down, just keep them organized.
  106. <Animator> And with a limit.
  107. <Geti> thats what im trying to do with that wiki page.
  108. <Orange> I'll write up these notes in my sketchbook.
  109. <Animator> Then go for it.
  110. <Geti> and pff, the controls thing wasnt that out of control. it would be like wall jumping in n, just written out. that
  111.   would be a lot of keypresses.
  112. <Geti> :P
  113. <Animator> Wall-jumping in N is different to what you suggested.
  114. <Animator> Why use back and frontflips? This isn't Ratchet and Clank.
  115. <Animator> All we need is a gun, and jumping abilities. Maybe wall-jumping.
  116. <Geti> no, i agree that was insane. but ducking is handy.
  117. <Geti> if there is going to be shooting.
  118. <Geti> which now i think about it, i like less. it would be cool for the runner to melee, the jumper to maybe have a beam,
  119.   and the floater to probably have nothing to attack with.
  120. <Zora_S_Kenneth> Ducking, jumping, and movement in the air are all good, I think.
  121. * Atilla (Atilla@wpe-E129D6E3.cust.wide.net.au) has joined #metagame
  122. <Animator> Atilla!
  123. <Geti> atilla. join the party. or, controlled musing.
  124. <Zora_S_Kenneth> Atilla!
  125. <Geti> wow, pile of alerts for him.
  126. <Geti> anyway, id like this to be kinda physics heavy animator, but tying that in with particle physics from enemies and a
  127.   lot of jumping puzzles.
  128. <Geti> yes?
  129. <Animator> I still have old enemy concepts from previous plans.
  130. <Animator> And a few bosses.
  131. <Zora_S_Kenneth> Maybe fluid and heavy? That would make a very interesting combination.
  132. <Animator> How does a Giant battleship sound for you?
  133. <Animator> Remember, Geti. We can only go as far as what our coders can go.
  134. <Geti> mmn, i know.
  135. <Animator> I don't know if particle physics could be done, so it's best not to rely so much on it.
  136. <Zora_S_Kenneth> And if they could be?
  137. <Geti> really? its just applying the normal gravity to different bodies.
  138. <Animator> Then we have partilce physics.
  139. <Geti> that collide with things and cause events.
  140. <Animator> Oh.
  141. <Atilla> It should be possible to do particle physics.
  142. <Orange> PLANETS SMASHING INTO EACH OTHER FUCK YEAH
  143. <Orange> An asteroid orbiting your planets crash-lands.
  144. <Atilla> Unless we're using Flash or something, in which case it might be too slow.
  145. <Orange> You investigate, and an alien is in it.
  146. <Zora_S_Kenneth> It's a simple matter of generating a sprite millions of times for a particle spray.
  147. <Animator> Alright.
  148. <Animator> What happened to the 3 robots? I liked the 3 robots.
  149. <Geti> mmn.. flash is less than good.
  150. <Geti> and yeah, theyre still in there.
  151. <Geti> theyre even in oranges concept.
  152. <Geti> and lol, ive liked the idea of planets colliding aswell..
  153. <Geti> if we get the particles happening its plausible, though id hate to script the event..
  154. <Geti> blah, in any case, i have to go, ill finish reading the logs etc another time.
  155. <Geti> sorry for being ott sometimes :P
  156. <Animator> Okay.
  157. <Animator> We should start with the tutorial first.
  158. <Geti> definitely.
  159. <Geti> ill get to work on some art. back in a while-ish
  160. <Geti> tata.
  161. * Geti (~-@wpe-BE466EEE.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) Quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org)
  162. <Animator> It should be a white colorless planet, with objects and foriegn items that you'd find.
  163. <Animator> It has all 3 robots.
  164. <Animator> Once you're done with the tutorial, the planet explodes, seperating all three.
  165. <Animator> You get to choose to play 1, and you experince what he experinces.
  166. <Animator> And then it's 3 plots tied together at the end when they find each other, combine and fight the Final Boss.
  167. <Zora_S_Kenneth> So we'd have three different story lines?
  168. <Orange> FUCK YES ANIMATOR
  169. <Orange> GOOD IDEA
  170. <Orange> But how do you explain changing form?
  171. <Animator> They're brothers.
  172. <Animator> You're going to take on a Giant planet alone? I think not.
  173. <Animator> GO GO POWER RANGERS. *combine*
  174. <Orange> ok.
  175. <Animator> And then they fight.

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